Posted by: Borderless Borderguard | February 17, 2008

Would Central Asian states recognise Kosova?

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Kosovo proclaimed its independence today. Russia and Serbia are aggressively opposed to this recent event. They call for the independence being annuled considering it as an illegal act. Kosovo is Serbia’s cultural and historic heartland. Serbians have been demonstrating today in front of the Slovenian Embassy (as Slovenia is running the EU Presidency now), and indeed, in some other European states. Well the Kosovans in Berlin were very loud and festive today.

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I was wondering if Uzbekistan and other Central Asian states would recognise Kosova or just follow the Russian line.The majority of Kosova’s population is muslim (Albanians). It is interesting if Central Asian Muslim States (population-wise) would support the Muslim brothers and sisters in southern Europe. By the way, Kosovo is the name used by Serbians and Kosova is going to be the official name of the state, I guess, as it is the Albanian way of saying it.

PS: For more information visit the blog Kosovareport, on why Kosova needs independence. BBC has Kosovo’s independence in pictures, it’s fun to watch, I guess.


Responses

  1. It’s about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito’s Yugoslavia & Milloshevic’s Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD. They have always been a minority and ‘the story’ of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. Now Kosova should be Free!

  2. Adrian,
    Thank you very much for your comment. Indeed, it is very useful to hear your voice for the independence of Kosova. I think Serbian military did some big mistakes, for which they seem to be paying now. I think most of the countries in the world see Serbs no more capable of managing its provinces where it shed blood of civilians couple of years ago. I don’t know the history of Balkans very well and won’t be able to take sides. But Ottomans once invaded those lands too. I mean they came from far east to Europe through seizing lands. I mean it is important who lives in Kosova now. Although, Wiki says Serbs invaded and imposed their rule over Dardanians already in the 12th century. anyway, i congratulate you with the independence.

  3. More than four IIIyrian Entities compose Albania.
    LABEATS, TAULANTS, ALBANS, ENKELEIS, DARASETS and KAONS.
    All of them speaks Illyrian language but with different dialects. Three first has a very distinct Illyrian dialect named GEGE and the rest has another Illyrian dialect named TOSKE.
    On 1912 they united in one single state and agreed to be named Eagle’s Land. SHQIPERIA.
    The foreign “SKOLARS” named Albania based on the name of only one of the Entities.
    This was not only Ignorance but also a big mistake of these “very educated Scholars“.
    The situation then was so critical for SHQIPETARET, so they accepted any injustice and compromise. This was the big price they pay to gain the independence. Of course many other Illyrian entities was ignored. This has been done in purpose to use Illyrian territories as a trade merchandise to please slavics, which in return were used in two wars. The Slavics paid their price. They lost 56 million people 1908 – 1946. Illyrian paid bigger price. They were spread over 5 different states.
    It’s about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova (Dardania) to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito’s Yugoslavia & Milloshevic’s Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. They speak ilirian language with the dialect GEGE. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD, and they speak a language more similar to Ukrainian then Russian. They have always been a minority and ‘the story’ of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. The borders of Kosova are well established and recognized. Now Kosova should be Free!
    To find the answer for the question “do you think Kosovo’s independence will strengthen separatist movements elsewhere”, please refer to:
    http://www.acesofww2.com/germany/aces/Hartmann.htm
    Erich Hartman – top ace of all the time. German Luftwaffe Bf 109 Pilot.
    Near the end of WWII, in early May 1945, Hartmann, then Gruppenkommandeur of famous Jagdgeschwader 52, and his Commodore, Hermann Graf, ground crew, family members, and other civilians, who had joined the squadron, seeking protection approaching Russian army, moved west in direction of territory already occupied by US troops. On May 8th, 1945, the soldiers and civilians surrendered to US troops in the region between Bavaria (German province) and Czech border. But on May 17th, the US Army delivered all of these German troops and civilians to the Red Army. How did the Russian troops treat the civilians? They tortured, raped German woman, children at least 12 years old. Some woman were shot after the rapes. Others were not so lucky. A twelve year old girl whose mother had been raped and shoot being raped by several solders. She died from these acts soon afterward. Then more Russian came, and it began all over again. During the night, entire German families committed suicide with men killing their wives and daughters, then themselves. This is the way the slavics treat the human been, the innocent civilians. This is the way the Serbs treated innocent Croatian, Bosnian and Dardanian civilians. If any entity of human been will be treated like that, then they are in title to ask and gain the independence.

  4. I feel very much for the pain and trauma of the people, who had to go through violence, which human kind, unfortunately, is more than often guily of.
    Slavs just as many other ethnic groups, who gained more power over others, sometime in the history performed badly, or sometimes brilliantly. There is a tendency in Central Asia to evilise Russians and to put all responsibility for previous and current mistakes on their shoulders, which i think is not fair. There were a number of success stories which were written down with the help of russian intrusion into the region, i.e. mass education, emancipation of women, etc… Of course there were some mistakes too, some bad mistakes, but labelling them all as evils is just a huge mistake, which makes us no different from those who committed atrocities on innocent people. There are evil people everywhere, i.e. humans who at times do evil things to others.

    Moreover, there were times when violence, atrocities were morally affordable, in Middle Ages, wars, occupations of unknown territories was seen normal, if not displaying excellence and power. Today, this sort of expression of power is perceived as aggression. A proverb (can’t place it nationally anywhere) that suggests that “There are no good and bad nations/ethnicities, there are good and bad people”, in good and bad times. I am sorry to sound so horribly banal.
    I am still shocked with all the violence human kind is capable of doing to their counterparts. Again, I celebrate the independence of Kosova, the will of the majority of Kosovan’s.

  5. http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/nato-colony-proclaims-pretend-constitution/

  6. Actually, no central Asian state except NATO-occupied Afghanistan recognizes “Kosovo”

    They are all very well aware that it is an illegal act, and recognition would only spell disaster for every state in central Asia.

    Only 5 Asian countries now recognize “Kosovo”, and Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates are debating it.

    UN resolution 1244 commits the UN to recognize Serb territorial integrity.

    “Kosovo” will NEVER be a member of the UN or of the EU without Serb consent, as Spain, Russia, Commie China, Portugal, Greece, Bulgaria, etc uphold UN 1244.

    A phony NATO-state founded on lies and terror, incapable of defending itself, with no legal economy.

    Oh, that’s progress I guess…

  7. Correction:

    I knew that Bulgaria was adamantly opposed to Kosovo “independence”, but apparently they’ve been bought off by the US and Germany.

    http://www.huliq.com/24603/bulgaria-kosovo-must-not-make-unilateral-declaration-of-independence

    Never mind.

    Romania, Greece, Cyprus, Spain and Portugal still support Serbia.

    Kosovo will never join EU as long as one member opposes it.

    And even if Russia switches for strategic reasons, Security Council member Red China won’t.

    And unlike Taiwan, Kosovo is in no way independent.

    It’s a huge farce.

    Kosovo is like NATO/Germany’s Indian Reserve..

    hope they cjhoke on it.

  8. Just one proof of Kosovan lunacy, from EU Observer June 13, 2008:

    “A new UN resolution drafted in 2007 was to see UNMIK cede powers to the government of an independent Kosovo, supported by the 2,200-strong EULEX police and customs force and overseen by an EU special representative and his International Civilian Office.

    “Russia blocked the new UN resolution but Kosovo declared independence unilaterally on 17 February, creating the current situation in which just 20 of the 27 EU states have recognised Kosovo independence and just 300 EULEX officials have so far been deployed.

    “Moscow on Thursday complained that the UN is making “scandalous” and “illegal” de facto preparations to hand over Kosovo to the EU in violation of resolution 1244, calling for the dismissal of UNMIK chief Joachim Ruecker..”

  9. I am a pakistani mangol muslim and very proud to have another muslim state on the world map congratulation my muslim brothers and god bless you all keep your country safe and be good ALLAH will bless you with his merci inshallah.

  10. No they won’t recognize it. Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan already said no, Uzbekistan is undecided and Turkmenistan is neutral. They see that this is an illigal thing to do and they see throught their lies. Yes some Kosovo Albanians are Muslim but the majority are agnostics or very non-practicing Muslims. They use call them selfs Muslims and use this propaganda to get recognition from Muslim countries but not may will recognize them excpet the obvious US puppets (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Gulf States and etc…). Also as a Muslim from Bosnia I also am glad Bosnia will not recognize them. They have always caused problems in the Balkans and they are trying to start another war in Bosnia again but they won’t suceed. They are the puppets of the US! They are the biggest “muslim” and European supporters of United States and Israel which is why no one wants to recognize hem except US puppets. The events in Georgia just show what idiots the US and EU are… so it’s ok for Kosovo to be indpendent but not for Abkhazia or S.Ossetia? These double standards MUST change.

  11. i am albanian.i am glad that kosovo has declarated to indipendent state.now montenegro and macedonia has accept it as free land.nobody need greece and bulgarian help.until USA support us we will give a fuck all the country which hate us.FREEDOM TO KOSOVO.god bless USA.thanks


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